Podcast: Life isn’t binary! How non-binary thinkin...

Podcast: Life isn’t binary! How non-binary thinking can help us to understand ourselves

My fabulous co-author, Alex Iantaffi, and I have a new book out this summer called Life Isn’t Binary. It’s all about how non-binary thinking applies to way more than sexuality and gender: the two areas where we might be starting to recognise that things aren’t as binary as is often assumed.

In the run up to publication Alex and I made this podcast about the book and why non-binary thinking is such an important theme for us.

We discussed the trans umbrella, colonial thinking, bi-gender people and plural selves, sexualities, queerphobia, Disney Pixar’s ‘Inside Out,’ binary governing of our bodies and emotions, labels, intersectional identities, hierarchies, marginalisation, policing identity boundaries, prioritisation of different relationships, growing up in Italy, Capitalism, the importance of reflection, and being kind to yourself.

Check out the podcast here.

If you like this you can also follow Alex’s awesome podcast, Gender Stories and my regular podcast on sex, and relationships with my other amazing co-creator Justin HancockMeg-John & Justin.

And, of course, you can pre-order the book here.

Meg-John (MJ) Barker (they/them) is a writer, zine-maker, collaborator, contemplative practitioner, and friend. They are the author of a number of zines and popular books on sex, gender, and relationships, including graphic guides to Queer, Gender, and Sexuality (with Jules Scheele), and How To Understand Your Gender, Sexuality and Relationships (with Alex Iantaffi).


  1. marion mulder

    12 January

    Hi am curious about the podcast, but link doesnt go to it (anymore)

  2. Meg-John Barker

    12 January

    Thanks so much for spotting that – I’ve updated the link and this should also work: