You can listen to the episode here. This is what Lena said about it…
We love a good ‘both and’: both cake and ice cream, both dogs and cats. In this episode, as well as in their multiple graphic guides, MJ explains how rigid binaries harm our bodies, limit our minds and how many benefits life beyond the binary has to offer, not just for genderqueer people but for everyone.Queer Lit
If you want more on this topic, you can check out my book, with Alex Iantaffi, Life Isn’t Binary here.
And my article about queer writing here.